Tea Party Enters the Wisconsin Recall Fray

Groups are raising money and lining up thousands of volunteers to review signatures in the effort to recall Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

On Tuesday, organizers of the effort to will submit stacks upon stacks of signed petitions to the state, a move that will set a 60-day time clock into motion as the signatures are counted and verified.

Both the Republican and Democratic parties of Wisconsin have set up their own vetting and verification operations to ensure only valid signatures are counted.

However, there’s a new guest joining the recall party, and they’ll be sure all their “I’s”  are dotted and their “Teas” are crossed.

Tea Party groups in Wisconsin and around the country have recruited nearly 10,000 volunteers from 49 states to scrutinize the signatures and verify that people who signed petitions are indeed who they say they are.

On top of that, the nationally known Tea Party Express is offering its support of the Republican governor and is actively raising funds to defend Walker in a recall. The group is sending regular emails its supporters, imploring them to make donations to "help us stand up for Walker and the Tea Party values that are under attack by Obama’s campaign machine and his radical union mobs!"

While Tea Party groups insist they’re simply doing their civic duty, not everyone is happy they’ve invited themselves to the party.

“They will accomplish nothing, except mischief on behalf of Scott Walker,” state Wisconsin Democratic Party spokesman Graeme Zielinski said. “That Scott Walker would take help from groups like this shows that his priority is with preserving his job, while not caring a thing about the rest of Wisconsin."

Two groups lead effort to verify signatures

Anchoring the efforts in Wisconsin are the Wisconsin Grandsons of Liberty and We The People of the Republic (WPR). The two groups combined forces and launched VerifyTheRecall.com to recruit volunteers to vet the more than 540,000 signatures that are expected to be filed with the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board on Tuesday.

Both groups were spurred into action after the state board announced in December that it wouldn’t eliminate signatures like “Mickey Mouse” and “Hitler” from its counts. However, Waukesha County Circuit Judge Mac Davis recently stated it was the board's responsibility to strike fake and duplicate names.

“We want to make sure the people of Wisconsin are the ones who have the choice, and that it’s not left to fraudulent practices. When that happened there was public outcry for someone to do something,” said WPR founder Ross Brown. “We want to emphasize that our efforts are independent, and being done in a nonpartisan way.”

However, since its inception, the Tea Party has been one of the most outspoken advocates of conservatism in the United States. Although the groups involved in the verification operation assert their independence from Walker, the Democrats just aren’t buying it.

The state Democratic Party is conducting its own signature vetting process before submitting the stack to the state. Zielinski said their final count will hold up to any scrutiny and legal challenge.

Recall organizers need to submit 540,000 valid signatures, but Democrats are aiming to turn in about 725,000 to the state in case some names are challenged.

“Our total will be beyond any reasonable, legal or moral challenge,” Zielinksi said. “The only thing Walker has left is to delay and try to leverage his sleazy corporate cash, which he is raising right now in Texas while the rest of Wisconsin digs out of a snow storm.”

Tea Party targeted by left and right

For Brown, criticism has been his constant companion, but he and thousands of other volunteers move forward with their independent verification effort. In fact, it’s been a two-headed monster of criticism of the “Verify the Recall” campaign.

“We have been demonized by both the left and the right during this, but it’s about protecting the process and recognizing integrity,” Brown said. “The left is making the accusation that we are the thugs of the Walker administration, which is not true at all. To say this is a coordinated effort is just false.”

Some on the right are questioning why the Tea Party groups are verifying the signatures - saying that should be left to the Walker campaign.

Regardless of the side it’s coming from, Brown said he welcomes the criticism.

“We must be doing something right if everyone is mad at us,” Brown said. “But that will not hinder our efforts. We are pursuing this regardless. No matter what.”

Ben Sparks, a spokesman for the Republican Party of Wisconsin, reaffirmed that there was a clear line in the sand drawn between the Walker's campaign and the Tea Party efforts. He said Republicans also are conducting their own verification operation.

When asked if Walker and the Republicans welcomed the support of the Tea Party groups, Sparks wouldn't say.

"These are independent efforts and are not affiliated with The Republican Party of Wisconsin or the governor's campaign,” he said. “We will continue our statewide volunteer effort to preserve the integrity of the process, and ensure that Wisconsin electors are not disenfranchised."

Recall will cost big bucks

If there is a recall election, it is . The that it will have to hire temporary employees, rent an off-site facility, and purchase a $100,000 upgrade for its software.

The Verify the Recall group plans to employ software designed by a Texas-based group called True the Vote, which used the program in a congressional district vote in that state.

“They already have a small-scale system built, but they’ve never tried it on a statewide scale,” said Jerry Gamble, a spokesman for the Grandsons of Liberty. “The IT folks are putting in a lot of time making sure the database will work properly, and we’ve just completed a large-scale test of the system and it is working fine right now.

Only time will tell how all the counts from the different interested parties will turn out. However, the state Republican Party and the Friends of Scott Walker are the only groups that can legally bring a challenge to the courts regarding the final signature counts. The tallies from the Verify the Recall group can only be submitted for consideration if legal action is pursued.

In addition to verifying the signatures, the Verify the Recall group also created a “No Sign” registry to protect people who did not sign a recall petition. Those who add their names to the list affirm they never signed a petition, and if their name appears on a recall petition during the group’s vetting process, those people will be contacted.

Brown said that would stand as proof that their names were added to a petition without consent.

“If their name shows up, they will be notified via e-mail,” Brown said. “These individuals didn’t sign a petition, and want to ensure their names weren’t used. That individual can take further legal action if they choose to.”

Brown said more that 30,000 people have signed up for the registry.

mau January 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM
I can't wait to start.
Randy1949 January 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM
@Mau -- I think you'll need to explain the point of that post. It seemed a tad fragmented.
mau January 15, 2012 at 11:43 PM
My point is it is ,the ones who hate the most, are the ones who profess it is the other side that are the haters. My other point with the fragments, is that there are some who just can't seem to get their point across, without throwing out specific names ad-nauseam and labeling anyone who does not share their point of view. I myself enjoy these dissenting viewpoints whether I agree with them or not. But the name calling distracts from the conversation.
LadyeCatte January 15, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Paul? You mean that guy who thinks that the only recourse a woman should have when she is sexually harrassed at work, no matter how good she is at her job, is to QUIT? That guy who crowed on video about some nasty newsletters he owned until it turned on him and he pretended he didn't know anything? THAT Ron Paul? Ha. I happen to like being treated like an equal at work AND the variety of employment and educational choices I have that my grandparents didn't, thank you very much.
LadyeCatte January 16, 2012 at 12:04 AM
What, "Patriot"? No commentary or defense of the Teabagger group that flat-out LIED, CHEATED and BROKE THE LAW to try and keep Pearce in power? If you're just miffed that I mentioned it, too bad. How about the Republican mantra (aka LIE) that Obama is disrespecting the Constitution while they patently attack it daily AND pretend Barbour didn't deliberately shyte on his own state's?? Yes, I prefer a more robust.. more HONEST rebuttal. But I guess hoping for such from a Republikkkan/Teabagger is a vain wish, isn't it?
morninmist January 16, 2012 at 01:15 PM
And what did you do about it? Sat and cried onto comment boards such as this is my guess. ................. Patriot 6:50 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012 @Bren-Just like we all got to see what was in the Obama/Pelosi health care bill right? Get a clue
Silence Dogood January 16, 2012 at 01:19 PM
I sincerely hope that a majority of citizens can grow up and learn to accept and respect the opinions of their fellows with whom they disagree. Obviously, both sides can, and should strive to refrain from using, foolish labels like "useful idiots and lapdogs." Anyone with a strong opinion can make the mistake of perceiving all contrarians as benighted inferiors. You are certainly welcome to your opinion, which you have arrived at according to a process you have approved, just like everyone else. Consider the possibility that many fellow citizens have had enough of the corrupt and ruinous relationship between the state workers unions and Democrat political operatives. As the youthful pro-democracy demonstrators in Cairo's Tahrir Square told Mubarak: "Enough!"
The Wall January 16, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Relabel the bus "Tea Party Repress" The Tea Party is a billion dollar ad campaign which does not wholly disclose what it is selling. Unfortunately for democracy it is built on catch phrases which worked to sway the gullible and spiteful in the public to repeat the simplistic inaccurate message. There is nothing viable in the Tea Party plan to govern the needs of this diverse nation.
Patriot January 16, 2012 at 03:28 PM
@Zuma-When did this become a race issue. Has nothing to do with his color, race, or anything like that. But rather his ability to divide this Country like never before. Open your eyes Zuma his failed policies are not working. Now he wants another 1.2 trillion. Maybe this time it will be shovel ready. Progressives like you are the very evil that is destroying this country. The majority will prevail.
Patriot January 16, 2012 at 03:34 PM
@Zuma-If your efforts are so envolping then why did u not collect a million or 2 million signatures. The signatures collected are equal to or close to it the amount who voted against Walker during the election. So when you loose the recall effort whats next? Was it not the fab 14 who left the State and prevented offical State business from happening? Thats what I thought
morninmist January 16, 2012 at 04:25 PM
Can anyone--from all Parties--seriously believe this is a good idea?--to have out of state people looking up addresses and possible phone numbers of everyday residents of WI. I have seen the comments on the internet sites--people wanting to know IF their neighbors, friends, relatives--the person down the street, or co-workers signed. What business is it to them? NONE! Many of the same comments carried vile language with them. Verifying the vote should be serious effort--by folks in our state committed to doing just that---not a witch hunt of Who exactly signed the petitions. "Tea Party groups in Wisconsin and around the country have recruited nearly 10,000 volunteers from 49 states to scrutinize the signatures and verify that people who signed petitions are indeed who they say they are."
Bob McBride January 16, 2012 at 04:46 PM
morninmist, you did explain to everyone who signed your recall forms that their signature and information would be part of the public record, did you not?
CowDung January 16, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Doesn't it seem that it would be less of a 'witch hunt' if the validation is being done by out of state volunteers rather than friends, neighbors and relatives or those who signed the petitions?
Patriot January 16, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Not to mention if this is how you honestly feel WHY HIDE?
Jay Sykes January 16, 2012 at 05:08 PM
How exactly, is delineating information about the recall petition signers, for any and all to see, different than publishing the Walker contributor list?
Randy1949 January 16, 2012 at 05:45 PM
No reason at all. In fact, thanks for the heads up. I'll be practicing my speech to the person who calls or knocks on my door to verify I actually signed the petition.
Dennis Allen January 16, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Plus it's a great way for telemarkers to get your name and address to send you a ton of junk mail.
Lyle Ruble January 16, 2012 at 06:36 PM
@Saxon Realm...White supremacy in all its glory!
Bob McBride January 16, 2012 at 06:49 PM
Telemarketers usually call rather than send you mail, but that aside I'm not sure there's enough of a margin in crying towels to warrant either a telemarketing or mass mail campaign. So you're probably safe.
CowDung January 16, 2012 at 07:05 PM
You don't like Romney because he comes across as condescending and arrogant? What do you think of our current President then?
morninmist January 16, 2012 at 07:25 PM
@Saxon Realm Are you Jarad? Or are plagiarizing the quotation from this article? ....... http://www.amren.com/ar/2005/04/index.html by Jared Taylor ........."The logical meaning of the holiday is the ultimate destruction of the American Republic as it has been conceived and defined throughout our history, and until the charter for revolution the holiday represents is repealed, we can expect only further installations of the destruction and dispossession it promises. ".......
morninmist January 16, 2012 at 09:44 PM
Yes, I will be there!! StandUpWis StandUp4People #RECALLwalker becomes OFFICIAL at 3 pm TOMORROW! Witness history in the making at GAB office, 212 E. Washington Ave. #WIrecall #WIpolitics
Denise Lockwood January 16, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Why do you think that way?
Dennis Allen January 17, 2012 at 04:31 AM
History is being made even as we speak. Walker will be only the 3 rd governor ( I believe ) to be recalled in history.
Walker January 17, 2012 at 04:43 PM
@ Craig,"That was different." ROTFLMAO!!! Of course it was, it's always "different" when you're called on the carpet. Hmm, narcissism.
Zuma Bound January 18, 2012 at 12:29 AM
@ Patriot, Bobby McBride, Cow Dung, mau, Tammy Christian, Ima Teabaggee fka Ima Hippee, Steve, Robert Canyon, Michael Mark, Stormy Weather, AND to the infamous Sosnoski wing of the Tea Party Recall petitions for Walker, Kleefisch and four Republican state senators, Scott Fitzgerald being at the top of the list, have been filed with the GAB. Over ONE MILLION signatures on the Walker petition! Read it and weep, baggers. Read it and weep. Or to quote teabagger sage, Patriot: "yaaaaaaaaaaa yaaaaaaaaaaaaa". (*laughing*)
Zuma Bound January 18, 2012 at 12:56 AM
@ Silence Dogood Your point regarding the prevalence of name-calling in politics is not without merit. However, it would have greater impact if you took time to call out your rightwing brethren, along with those on the left, who engage in it. That said, terms like "useful idiots" and "lapdogs", particularly in the way that I used them, are terms of art, with substantive meaning. They are not, per se, pejorative expressions. In context, as I used them in my comment, they were absolutely appropriate, and I stand by their use up above. As to the following part of your comment, just for the record, I'm still laughing: "Consider the possibility that many fellow citizens have had enough of the corrupt and ruinous relationship between the state workers unions and Democrat political operatives. As the youthful pro-democracy demonstrators in Cairo's Tahrir Square told Mubarak: 'Enough!' " AND you were doing SO well up to that point. Comparing the Tea Party and/or other kinds of Walker policy supporters to the protestors in Tahrir Square?! (*LAUGHING*) That's just laughable. So is your hyperbolic, hyperpartisan rhetoric. "[T]he corrupt and ruinous relationship between the state workers unions and Democrat political operatives"? Oh, jeez. Pot calling the kettle black, methinks, Silence Dogood. Pot calling the kettle black. My calling Snotty Scotty the Koch brothers' lapdog pales by comparison to that truly pathetic piece of partisan dreck.
Zuma Bound January 18, 2012 at 01:13 AM
@ Patriot Just saw your reply to one of my comment above. Patriot: "@Zuma-If your efforts are so envolping then why did u not collect a million or 2 million signatures." Zuma: Uh, "envolping"? (*laughing*) Patriot, your comments are already incoherent enough without you making up words. In any event, now that the petition signatures are in with over a million signatures in total, it's abundantly clear that your snarky wishful thinking just didn't pan out. Oh, well, huh? (*laughing*) Sometimes, Patriot, as they say, it's better to remain silent, and only be thought the fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. Patriot: "The signatures collected are equal to or close to it the amount who voted against Walker during the election. So when you loose the recall effort whats next?" Zuma: Again, getting ahead of yourself. "Better to remain silent. . ." Patriot: "Was it not the fab 14 who left the State and prevented offical State business from happening?" Zuma: Huh?! Patriot: "Thats what I thought." Zuma: Double HUH?! Seriously, dude, "[s]ometimes it's better to remain silent. . ." Anyway, Patriot, overall, I've GOT to give your reply comment an F- for its content and [in]coherence. You're just not doing your "team" any good. Maybe it's just time to retire. . .or go back to school and take a remedial English class.
Dennis Allen January 18, 2012 at 03:42 AM
Right On. And what I heard was they got almost as many sigs. as Walker got votes for governor. Your going down Snake.
Zuma Bound January 18, 2012 at 04:08 PM
@ mau Well, mau, if KOCH the KOCH "shoe" KOCH fits. . .(*laughing*) Ah, yes, the rich fantasy world of the wingnut. . ."These are not the [KOCH brothers] you are looking for. Move along." [tip of the hat to Alec Guinness] AND Scott Walker didn't bare his soul for all the world to see in that conversation that he had with someone he thought was David Koch. . . [M]au, people not suffering from partisan myopia are just connecting the obvious "dots". If you knew what was good for you, you would heed the words of Shakespeare's sage counsel, "Get KOCH thee KOCH to KOCH an KOCH [optometrist]." If you can get out of your narrow-minded partisan bubble long enough to do it, try reading this little gem mined, and originally offered up above, by Bren: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/oct/25/tea-party-koch-brothers?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487 To KOCH an KOCH open-minded KOCH person, it's KOCH enlightening. cc: Steve, Michael Mark, Bob ("the Snarkmeister") McBride, Ima Teabagger fka Ima Hippee, Robert Canyon, Stormy Weather


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