Introducing Southeastern Wisconsin's Theoretical Subway System

Do all theoretical subway lines lead to Milwaukee? On this map they do. But what do you think?

So these kids up at UW-Madison, (well, OK so they aren't really kids) came up with a handy dandy map of what a Milwaukee subway system might look like, according to a blog on JS Online.

The map represents an interesting connectedness between southeastern Wisconsin communities, sort of remniscent of the KRM concept, but broader. And because there are college students involved, you know there's beer. Here's how this map idea got legs.

Meg Jones wrote:

Matt Forrest, a University of Wisconsin-Madison grad, was drinking suds with his friend Tom Shield at the Y-Not II Tavern last summer. Forrest and his business partner, Kate Chanba, met in a web map design class their senior year at UW and had recently opened Carticulate, a cartography business in New York that melds mapmaking with graphic design.

Now the subway is but a pipe dream, almost literally because this plan would be in direct conflict with the muck flowing through Milwaukee's deep tunnel system.

But we wondered what you thought of this hypothetical connected community?

Jay Sykes January 24, 2013 at 10:53 PM
@CD... I'm not sure one can work out an ideal solution on the tax schedule for roads. A per/gallon tax on gasoline is not now, nor was it ever, a perfect proxy for sharing the actual cost of roads. Roads/bridges have the initial capital cost[fixed] and roads/ bridges need continuing services(snow-plowing, crack repairs, bridge painting)[variable], even if they see near zero usage. Without going to the additional expense of reading everyone odometer or installing a government GPS,we need to assess those that have non-gasoline/ diesel or high mpg vehicles for their share of the roads. A modest increase in the 'fixed' component (registration fee), inversely proportionate to mpg, appears to be the most efficient and even handed.
CowDung January 24, 2013 at 11:06 PM
See, I don't see it that way since there is such a wide variety in the number of miles people drive. I drive a couple thousand miles per year, but the average is around 15,000 miles per year. Why should I pay the same amount at registration as the average driver with the same model of car as I? I am using the roads far less than the average person. While gas tax might not be perfect, it at least seems to better address the issue of those that use the roads most, pay the most.
Jay Sykes January 24, 2013 at 11:30 PM
@CD... I re-read the string and I think I was not clear... The increase in the registration, inverse to the gas mileage, is in addition to the current per/gallon tax. So, with my example the all electric car(now paying zero) would be paying in lieu of the per/gallon rate as a registration fee increase. The high mpg cars would be 'making up' for their shortfall in per/gallon contribution with a slightly higher registration fee. No change in the registration fee for the low mpg vehicle, as they pay their share at the pump.
tom sherman January 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM
you and sykes should check out the subsidy for cars and cars and their real environmental costs. it apupraches infinity. busses are great. so are bikes. (skykes even opposed bus racks on them cause he said there was not enough use-their use doubled from last year).
Born Free January 25, 2013 at 04:21 AM
Would you mass transit utopia Moonies sqauwk if a mass transit rail system or subway was built between Antigo and Greenbay? Or how about between the Wisconsin Rapids and Stevens Point? Of course you would because you'd wind up paying for it one way or another yet probably never use them. You'd whine about needing it more then they would. In fact your whining about this idea right now. The problem with your Moonie nightmares is you want everyone to pay for what you use. Cars are a great idea because everything about them generates taxes through out their useable life. They pay their way just like the person who earns a living pays their way. If you don't like fossil fuel emmisions then walk or take a bicycle or get a horse. At least with the horse you can burn your horse sh*t in your huts fireplace or your non metal mined bot bellied stove for heat. I assume you don't use natural gas or electricity or wood for your heat either.


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