Hovde Surges in Polls

Political newcomer Eric Hovde continues to surge in polls.

Our campaign is continuing to gain momentum. 

Last week, we learned that we are in a statistical dead heat with four-term governor Tommy Thompson for the GOP nomination (http://www.ericforsenate.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/HovdePollMemo5.9.12.pdf). 

Then, yesterday, we learned that we lead the presumptive Democrat nominee, Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin, by four points (http://www.dailykos.com/polling/2012/5/11/WI/123/MjpEP). 

Despite never running for office before and campaigning for just two months, we are already well-positioned to defeat two career politicians who have spent their careers in government building up their name ID.

This is because our message, organization and resources are resonating with voters statewide, and folks across Wisconsin are ready for another citizen legislator with new ideas and a fresh perspective. 

Thank you all for your continued support! 

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Brian Carlson May 21, 2012 at 03:36 AM
Greg, I wonder if Christ and Mohammed trump Ben Franklin. Both taught that giving to the poor and taking care of people in need is vital to any sort of ethical life. Throwing money at people without any guidelines doesn't help in the long run, but believe me, if you have nothing or next to it...the chances you can do better are next to nil in this country. Simple example: how much do you pay to have a telephone and service each month. Many people do not have that money...cant have a phone. Without a phone...you can't get a job...you have to have a phone number...or no one will hire you. Now, how much is a crappy apartment? If you do not have the money to pay for an apartment and utilities...or the credit that the landlord needs to see to let you sign a lease...again...no job. You need an address. These are minimum necessities to get anywhere... of course you need food and, in most places in our non-mass transit culture you need a vehicle that runs...and insurance. Many people, even when working full time, can not pay for these things....
Greg May 21, 2012 at 03:32 PM
Read Franklin's quote again, I think we are mostly on the same page. But I stand firm that hand-outs do not empower. The cycle of poverty is proof that our system is broken.
Randy1949 May 21, 2012 at 04:42 PM
Yes, Greg, but what do you call a 'hand-out' versus a hand up? Do you consider publicly funded primary education a hand-out? Without literacy, a person has almost no chance of prospering in life. How about medical care? You can't work if you aren't healthy, and whose fault is it if a working family can't afford health insurance if their employer pays low salary and no health benefits? I know the 'cycle of poverty' you're talking about -- four and five generations of single-mother families with chronic unemployment and no responsible role models. But they aren't the ones going to be hit the worst by this belt tightening. It's the marginal working poor -- all the way through retirement, if that austerity includes Social Security and Medicare.
Greg May 21, 2012 at 06:16 PM
Publicly funded primary education is not a hand-out. "You can't work if you aren't healthy", yet many healthy people do not work, to later provide themselves with healthcare. The safety net is there, why should they? Belt tightening would not be necessary if these programs were structured to help people rather indenture them to be democrat voters. We tried it your way for a loooooooong time, now let's try my way. Safety net: -Family -Neighbors and friends -Church and community -Government Skipping straight to the government has become too easy and requires ZERO personal responsibility. I am 100% for helping the those that can not help themselves, the sick or needy. But more take advantage of the system then need it.
Bren May 21, 2012 at 07:28 PM
Greg, our modern society is constructed in a way that values certain types of abilities and skills more than others. Not everyone has the lecture hall/9-5 mindset, nor should they. It takes many different types of people and viewpoints to make a world. While needed, childcare, manual labor, etc., sadly do not have the same pay rates as others. One really cannot raise a family well on $10 or so per hour before taxes. If someone makes $10/hour before taxes and whose spouse, who made $10-$12/hour loses their job, how will they take care of a sick family member? This is a reality for a lot of people. That's why some of our taxes go to provide Badgercare and/or federal programs. You might say that the person who makes a lower wage as a childcare worker should get a better-paying job, but isn't childcare an important job? Health insurance is so expensive, family coverage especially so. Many families also have to choose between health care and paying bills. Another sad fact is how we treat stay-at-home parents based on income. A moderate-to-low income parent is demonized for wanting to stay home and raise their children with taxpayer support, but a parent who has income (alone or with a working spouse) sufficient to stay at home is lauded. There's no in-between. And, if folks like Ms. Hendrick have their way, our state will become Right to Work and wages will dwindle further.
Bren May 21, 2012 at 08:04 PM
As Jesus said, the poor will always be with us. There will always be those who have skill sets/abilities that do not fit within normal social confines--but who sets the confines? The "cycle of poverty" is an environment without hope, a terrible place in which to live. How does one obtain hope? It is easy to criticize without a similar point of reference. And I agree with Randy. The current generation of workers will rely on Medicare and Social Security as no others before may have done, because of salary cuts, job loss, etc. And yet these are the programs that radicals in Washington want to cut.
Greg May 21, 2012 at 08:12 PM
I agree with many of your points. I come from a family that had to do with little. But reality is that the programs, that you tout, are wrought with abuse and you do not seem to understand the concept of killing someone with kindness. Why shouldn't the $10/hr employee work to improve their situation? Lack of ability or lack of ambition? I was taught, if I wanted something I had to work for it and save for it. What part of your social programs promotes anything close to this type of thinking? Our poor have lost perspective of want and need, $100 basketball shoes and food stamps, and people like you encourage their continued actions. Sticking your head in the sand really doesn't help people. I do a lot of service work and I support a lot more, so people are just not numbers to me.
CowDung May 21, 2012 at 08:26 PM
One can provide hope by having a system that is a true safety net rather than a lifestyle. We need a system that works to get people back into the workforce instead of just sustaining them as unemployed people. Perhaps make job skills training one of the jobless benefits. The 'radicals' in Washington rightly recognize that Medicare is not sustainable in its current form. Social Security is far from financially secure as well. I applaud the progressives in Washington that are thinking outside the box and proposing solutions that will address the sustainability of the programs rather than just applying another band-aid and hoping it stops the bleeding...
Brian Carlson May 21, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Jesus' famous statement, "the poor will always be with us," is one of the greatest comebacks used by people who call themselves Christians, to slide off the hook of responsibility and action. Bren didn't use it in this manner, but the spin is essentially... There will always be poor. So there is no reason to try to change anything. At the same time Christ's life, voluntary poverty, a-materiality, simplicity and yes... Empathy spelled out in actions for the poor as well as the poor in spirit, stands in blazing contrast to those who, frankly, do NOT love their neighbors, do not take care of the hungry or lift a finger to clothe the naked... And who do not think anyone should. Sorry to be blunt.
Bren May 21, 2012 at 09:14 PM
If you believe as I do, life is a series of tests. Jesus also said, when you helped a stranger you helped me. I believe that wealth is a test, remembering the wealthy man who wanted to follow Jesus--until he was told to give away his wealth. How we treat people in need defines us as a society. This is why many of us believe that Scott Walker's policies (and nationally) are regressive, moving us away from the mindset of inclusivity and into a more selfish place. We each of us have to decide: whether we want to use our taxpayer dollars to "help a stranger," or not; and if we like what looks back at us in the mirror after making that decision.
Bren May 21, 2012 at 09:33 PM
The apocryphal--and debunked--"welfare queen" comes to mind when I hear people talk about the tragedy of multi-generational social displacement as a "lifestyle" choice. As if anyone would choose this for their children. We might as well say that people indulge in a "low cognitive function" lifestyle, a "parapalegic" lifestyle, or an "elderly" lifestyle. I don't believe the people who consider poverty a lifestyle choice are truly cruel, in most instances. A lack of context and/or empathy are most likely at play here. But a vote made in ignorance is just as devastating in its potential impact as one made in cruelty.
Greg May 21, 2012 at 09:35 PM
The message was to give away your wealth, not to take the wealth of others and give it away
Bren May 21, 2012 at 09:38 PM
The message was, for that man (the wealthy man), the test of his faith was to be willing to give away his wealth and follow Christ. A true test of the Commandment, "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." Ultimately the man chose his wealth over Christ.
Greg May 21, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Now our politics turned into religion. Oh boy. Just add beer and watch what happens.
Brian Carlson May 22, 2012 at 01:59 AM
Greg, I brought in Christ and Mohammed only because someone thought Ben Franklin was necessarily a wise man. But the ethics of nations are, in part, shaped by people who claim to follow this or that mainline religion. They vote for this party or that, believing it is better aligned with their belief system. Throwing a light on central points of their religion seems germane to me. I realize, of course, that a great many people are not members of a religion.
Brian Carlson May 22, 2012 at 02:02 AM
CowDung, Not sure I get to agree with you often but I do agree with the words about sustainability...
Greg May 22, 2012 at 02:08 AM
I understand your points and I enjoy the conversation. My "oh boy" comment was tongue-n-cheek.
Brian Carlson May 22, 2012 at 02:14 AM
Greg, Gotcha. I was about to ask Buddha and Lao Tse to the party.
Greg May 22, 2012 at 02:22 AM
A blind nut found a squirl?
Jay Sykes May 22, 2012 at 02:46 AM
Interesting note about the sustainability question: In 1974 1% of the 35-49 population collected Social Security Disability, in 2004 it was 2%. In the same time frame the 50-64 group moved from 2.5% to 3%. The percent in the 45-49 group has Doubled in 30 years. Since these are percentages, not absolute numbers, what are we doing to create all these additional disabled?
Randy1949 May 22, 2012 at 03:21 AM
@Jay Sykes -- Not hiring the marginally disabled? Morbidly obese, mentally ill. Simply over 45? Employers prefer young, pretty and fit, and in this market they can take their pick. I know people who could probably have worked some kind of job, but they hadn't a snowball's chance in hell of being hired or keeping that job. People like that are forced to do what they have to do to survive.
Brian Carlson May 22, 2012 at 03:37 AM
Randy1949.... I am 57. I have a long history of teaching studio art and art history classes in numerous universites and art institutes. I work as an adjunct and despite great reviews for classes...will never get a full time job teaching... 57? Forget it. This means no job security, no benefits and work for less than half of what full time teachers with my number of courses under their belts would get. I have two kids. There are many many people who can not get hired due to situations largely beyond their control. I have never taught more effectively than now, with more passion, information and skill. That and a buck seventy five gets a cup of coffee.
Randy1949 May 22, 2012 at 03:51 AM
Brian, art and architectural history were probably the two most useful classes I took in college (I majored in Fine Art) so thank you for doing what you do.
Jay Sykes May 22, 2012 at 06:22 AM
@Randy... Note that it was 1974 v 2004, not v 2011, the economy was just fine. Remember,SS-DI is not designed for people that 'can't find work' or for those of 'traditional retirement age'. If you are right, and all it takes to collect on Social Security Disability Insurance is to not be 'young,pretty and fit', then this country is in BIG BIG trouble. What kind of objective standard of disability is that?
Randy1949 May 22, 2012 at 05:44 PM
@Jay Sykes -- Perhaps I didn't explain as clearly as I should have. The 'buyer's market' when it comes to hiring has existed for longer than just the current downturn, although it's much worse at the moment. What I'm saying is that the chronic difficulties in getting hired because you're old or not in the best of health may have lead those who legitimately qualified for disability to swallow their pride and apply rather than to keep working at those marginal jobs they were still able to do. In the case of a relative of mine who was bi-polar, she was quite capable of working when she was on an even keel, but that lasted only a few months and then she'd be let go. And isn't that a disability of its own? The problem is that it's overwhelming the system.
Brian Carlson May 22, 2012 at 09:59 PM
Randy, Thanks...very unexpected reply from anyone. My prime directive in my classes is not teaching people what to think but encouraging them to think and to think, not only outside of the box, but beyond the tomato... to be creative in a phrase. The fact that we are bogged down in a two party, black and white, either/or, with us or against us, mode of thinking in this state and country... stifles what can be....like looking at a world through a welding shield. Glad your courses were good for you.
Abe Lincoln May 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Quick question
Abe Lincoln May 26, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Where is Gov Doyle these days...he left us with a $3B deficit and now is working for a large law firm billing $400 an hour. Wow, talk about skating. Wait, he was a Democrat!! High spending, big government and leave our kids with huge bills because we want to appeal to all versus making tough choices. That is what Barrett will give us again. Walker, moving forward Barrett, back to Doyle days
Abe Lincoln May 26, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Note to Patch. How about an interview with former Gov Doyle.....
Brian Carlson May 27, 2012 at 12:41 AM
Personally I have no great faith in any politicians. Apparently, to win, you must curry the favor of and hence become beholden to, rich corporate interests. Its not a stretch to say that these jobs are for sale to the highest bidder. But this idea that Democrats are about big spending and Republicans are frugal, flies in the face of Republican Presidents who start wars... racking up trillions in expenses and debts. Republicans spend big...just not on social interests...they go for the military industrial complex and oil companies, banking, etc. Check a list of Romney key supporters against a list of Obama key supporters. But both sides sell their souls IMO.


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