Video: The Board Votes; The Crowd Cries ‘Shame’
Residents react immediately after the board voted to approve a ratified teachers contract Monday. Board Member Ron Bertieri issued a statement after the vote.
The Menomonee Falls School Board on Monday approved a ratified two-year contract with the teachers union.
A majority of those in attendance were opposed to the contract, and voiced their displeasure immediately after the vote. Board Memeber Ron Bertieri gave a statement he had prepared after the vote was taken. Superintendent Keith Marty also addressed the crowd.
Mark
11:49 am on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
What a joke! This guy is leaving in 4 weeks but screws the tax payers Good luck St. Louis
Craig
5:15 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Dr. Marty is leaving a year too late. He screwed up the district while he was here, and raped us just before he makes his exit.
Chris Fritz
4:51 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Rumor has it the incoming Super is engaged to old man Greco's kid--wonder if it's true. If it is, God help the Falls. Either way, the job she did in West Bend was one plea for tax increases and one referendum after another.
Mike
6:41 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Hahaha! I live in Germantown, your neighbor to the north. In a 2007-2008 ranking of 53 southeastern Wisconsin school districts, Menomonee Falls was the 9th highest spending district in terms of dollars per pupil and ranked 27th and 24th in 3rd and 4th grade reading proficiency. By comparison, Germantown ranked 38th in highest money spent per pupil, and ranked 1st and 1st in 3rd and 4th grade reading proficiency. In a separate overall statewide ranking of school district student proficiency, Germantown ranked 9th and Menomonee Falls ranked 53rd. Germantown isn't extending union extortion privileges for two more pitiful years. So what's the deal, Ann? Are the kids in Germantown inherently smarter? Better parents? According to you, more extortion means better schools and you think Menomonee Falls has a great system, so maintain the status quo you say. The facts disagree with you though. Later on when your latest union extortion pact forces your pathetic beaurocracy to fire the younger, more energetic teachers, and your town looks for crafty ways to gauge more funds from the citizens who have to pay for your crappy school system, at least you and your buddies will have the last laugh all the way to the bank, right? Oh, and one more thing…public employees are not tax payers, they are tax receivers. There's a big difference between the two that's finally being recognized by some of our state and local leadership…just not the good ol’ guys and gals in the Falls.
mark
6:51 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Oh ann get over yourself. Teachers work so hard blah blah blah. Chingaling chingaling here comes the moneytrain. Just another reason more people should sacrafice their nicetices and homeschool their own children.
CN
8:01 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
I grew up in the falls but now reside in Sussex.
The Falls was a good school system- key word "was".
I'm glad I don't live in the falls simply because of things like this.
The Falls school board is a bunch of sellouts.
As I understand they didn't even try to renegotiate the over priced heath care package ... Real good job you elected board members are doing - real good.
Please stay in the Falls; I don't want any of you running for a seat out here.
RN4DRG
8:17 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Oh Ann, get over the whole "teachers as martyrs" argument you seem to think is legitimate. A lot of people have difficult jobs and work with other people's children on a daily basis, and there is no union standing in front of them demanding full time pay for 190 days of work per year.
This was never an attack on the teachers, it was an attack on the union representing them and the school board that was supposed to be representing us. In the end, no one represented us, and the union walked away with everything. I am sick to death of hearing about these poor people who chose a profession with unsustainable benefits who are now being asked to make a change. My daughter is a brand new teacher, and this is just clearing the way for her to have a successful career based on her hard work and dedication to her profession. I only hope she isn't forced to pay union dues to a union she doesn't want to a part of.
Me in the Falls
8:31 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
I've been a teacher, and I am currently a parent. I have been a taxpayer a long time too! This deal was railroaded through. I hope Falls voters remember this when these board members are due for re-election. Find some people who can think for themselves instead of sheep that will follow what the school administrators tell them is best.
Matt
9:53 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
I hope you also disapprove of railroading legislation through at 1am in our capital. If you ever get a chance watch the video of how the Budget Repair Bill was passed in the Assembly. Some members could not get a chance to vote. The Lacrosse Tribune interviewed Republican Rep Nerison on why he voted against the bill. http://lacrossetribune.com/tomahjournal/news/local/article_c56311fa-42b5-11e0-b55c-001cc4c03286.html
I wish Alberta Darling had the same courage to break ranks. Wisconsin has become divided and polarized with Scott Walker as Governor.
ChuckMenoFalls
3:36 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
@matt,
Nice try comparing the budget repair bill to the MFSD contract extension. What you are missing (perhaps intentionally) is that the budget repair bill was made available for public review for weeks prior the vote.
I'm still waiting for the MSFD contract extension to be made public, and given that the board admitted to not reading it prior to approving it, I suspect they're also waiting for it to be made public.
The prosser-cuter
8:55 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Mark Belling has asked the DA to file criminal open records violations against Marty and Shurilla. Previous court rulings indicate that once the teachers ratified the contract that the document becomes public, and it should have been available for anyone to read. This did not happen! Just five bullet points on a lame ass powerpoint.
ChuckMenoFalls
6:35 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
So I finally got some time to do some research on the topic Mr Belling mentioned as the basis for his criminal complaint. From the legis.wis website, I see this was AG Opinion 139, issued on June 10, 1994 by Attorney General Jim Doyle. What I find most fascinating is that AG Doyle made his opinion of open meetings violation against ... wait for it .... the board of Education for the Menomonee Falls School District.
Nate
7:15 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
I love it that it was Bozo the Clown.
Tulsa
9:22 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
I also remember the board saying they had not read the contract , So I will not vote for anyone who does not do what they are elected to do . Read the information before voting .
Jim
9:08 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
It a sad meeting.
Matt
9:23 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Only 5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal. Those states and their ranking on ACT/SAT scores are as follows:
South Carolina – 50th
North Carolina – 49th
Georgia – 48th
Texas – 47th
Virginia – 44th
If you are wondering, Wisconsin, with its collective bargaining for teachers, is ranked 2nd in the country.
This is from the economist http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/02/unions
squidknuckle
4:20 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011
And those numbers are completely incorrect. Do yourself a favor and go to the ACT and SAT websites and do some research before you regurgitate blog spittle.
Red
3:47 pm on Sunday, May 29, 2011
Yep, looks like a selection bias problem to me basing a metric of education on 4 percent of students. As squid says use the ACT as a better measure based on 69 percent of students taking that exam. Then Wisconsin is in the middle of the pack. Now, lets see if our spending is in the middle of the pack.
And if we including fairness and our kids future, can we have this discussion and not address the execrable performance of the Milwaukee Public Schools. How can we accept our leading city being the worst in the country? Our innercity children need an education too. Teachers break their arms patting themselves on the back for high achievement, but our inner city is being devastated.
Watch "Waiting for Superman" (movie). Dropout factories are highly correlated with union domination.
scott
9:39 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Matt
With everyone trying to prove their own point they use the tools that fit their needs - right or wrong. Matt those stats are exaggerated. Don't blindly pass along liberal/union garbage. Check this out for an accurate reporting of those numbers you parroted http://studentactivism.net/2011/02/20/sat-act-unions/
Bargaining can only be done in good faith. This state has gone decades without the good faith and the majority of people in this state now realize it and our sick of it. This is not a teacher thing or and education thing this is a UNION thing, and their usefulness in this country is over.
Matt
10:31 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Scott,
I looked at several different sources, including yours and depending on who's #'s you use there is variance in the states I mentioned and WI depending on a lot of variables. But, the 5 states mentioned are at or near the bottom of almost all the data and WI is generally near the top.
You mentioned good faith, what about the committments that were made to public employees? Walker never campaigned on his plan. And the majority do not oppose weakening collective bargaining. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/wisconsin/wisconsin_poll_support_for_budget_cutting_not_for_weakening_collective_bargaining_rights
Nate
9:58 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
That video made my day Carl. Well done citizens of the Falls. Take it to those clowns. Oh I'm sorry, it's only allowed for union zombies to interrupt meetings in Madison?
Marty ruined the district. Dr. Shaw ran it fine a great many years prior when I went through the schools which is unbelievable considering Marty was his assistant. As far has the new lady coming, Herdrich was principal at Ben Franklin in the early '90s when I went there. I'd say she was nice but I was a kid and she did replace a total hag.
I always grew up respecting my teachers and loving school (rare I know), but now that I pay huge taxes in our fine village, this disappoints me greatly. From one that has been born here and continues to live here, shame on you board members for falling into this game.
Carrie Maaske
11:02 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Give me a break! Nice statement that Noshay had pre-written! Love it that the guy in the audience called him out on it and then Noshay had to stutter his way through his lame excuse! Get rid of all these board members as far as I'm concerned.
The prosser-cuter
12:39 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
@Carrie - FYI - That was actually Bertierri reading the lame statement. The name plates were messed up.
Emily
11:16 pm on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Clearly the school district did not vote as representatives of the taxpayers of Menomonee Fall's. And I think many people have lost respect for teachers. It may be the fault of the "bad apples " but then I haven't heard the dedicated teachers who care more about students then benefits speak up. I'm repulsed my the public school system as a whole and have no pity for the poor teachers. What have you taught the students? To lie? To stomp off and protest instead of work when you don't get your way? My children will NEVER attend public school! And I'm sick of paying for my benefits AND those of teachers. You don't do a good enough job to deserve that, especially with Menomonee Falls' statistics!
The prosser-cuter
12:41 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Is anyone shocked that voluntary union dues were not part of this deal? We already know that the union doesn't give two hoots about the teachers or the students. As long as they get their dues they are happy!
jim
9:57 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Number 2 because of all the spending and increased taxes.
SAM
9:59 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Shame on the School District. Shame on you who have elected these people. Menomonee Falls has been a boys club from the first day my family moved here. It's not what you know, it's who you know. Unfortunately, I didn't learn this until my children started school a year later.
Having worked for the School District for awhile,you would be shocked at pay these teacher aides, secretaries and office personnel get! Benefits are way out of control. They are not being paid the way that most of us are and don't have the same benefits. There salaries don't match up with what is earn in the public sector. Give me a good reason a teacher aide should be paid $18 per hour, Secretaries over $20 as starting pay.
Some teachers I have spoken to even admit to only wanting the title of "Teacher" for 9 months of work, coaching positions and so forth.
The district was in better shape when Dr. Shaw was here, but remember, money issues were also different. Marty has been a joke from the get go; getting a car, raise etc. But, the district is also giving Dr. Herdrick the same. So now they've gotten away with this twice. When are we as village residents going to WAKE UP! Stop voting these people in. Change the way school district and village monies are spent; unions or not. Why are we not more involved!
Serial Gramma
4:51 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Secretaries do NOT start out at over $20/hr... and teacher aides do not earn $18/hr. Where do you get those numbers... they are not accurate and they are not FACTS.
scott
3:36 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Matt,
Again your comments are an exaggeration. Gov. Walker did exactly this in Milwaukee County as Executive. His board in the county was so liberal it never went through. MOST people that voted for Gov. Walker new exactly what he wanted to do, I was just surprised he actually took on the problem not the symptoms. This shows everyone that he wants to actually fix what is wrong with WI, politics be damned.
Matt
6:11 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Scott,
This is from the link you sent me, not Union/Liberal garbage. So, why do you want to make Unions a thing of the past when a legitimate study shows they do matter?
“There’s only been one scholarly effort to tackle this problem that I’m aware of. Back in 2000, three professors writing in the Harvard Educational Review did a statistical analysis of state SAT/ACT scores, controlling for factors like race, median income, and parental education. They found that the presence of teachers unions in a state did have a measurable and significant correlation with increased test scores — that going to school in a union state would, for instance, raise average SATs by about 50 points.”
Matt
Nate
6:21 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Did these Harvard boys research if in the event teachers feel screwed over, they'll call in sick and sleep in the Capitol Rotunda like smelly hobos and crawl through bathroom windows to get back inside when kicked out?
Nate
4:16 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Sad times for Menomonee Falls School District. A bunch of union thugs overtook the empty shells that are the school board members and bent the citizens over to insert secret contract extensions for the teachers without any lubrication or good night kiss.
Anthony
4:34 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Let's Put the Pressure for them to resign. Let's Get together protest them, find out if open meetings laws were violated. Let the Public know while they are on their summer vacation by holding signs with their names on them so upon their return they will be very uncomfortable in their skin. This can not happen without repercussions in the Conservative Center of Wisconsin, Waukesha county.
They are slaves to WEAC.
Serial Gramma
4:46 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
I can't believe most of you think the board did something wrong... Walker's law is not LAW yet... the board must follow rules of negotiating until it becomes law. Part of the negotiations from last October, before Walker was elected called for non-release of entire contract. Where were you in October or all the previous meeting to make comments?? Seems since Walker was elected it is very convenient to blame unions / working people because Republicans in office (not necessary conservative) tell you what is wrong and who to blame. But they love to give money away just as much as you think Dems do except to big corporations in form of tax breaks (2/3 of all WI businesses pay zero taxes)! I'd prefer to give my tax money to schools, villages, working people and the needy.
ChuckMenoFalls
7:12 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Gramma,
That's not exactly true. The bill was passed by the assembly and senate (pursuant to senate rules clearly stating a 2hr posting is required) , signed by the governor, and published by secretary of state. By constitutional definition, it is the Budget Repair LAW. Now, it would be fair to say a (activist, liberal) judge has issued an injunction and slow-tracked her ruling on this issue.
You'd prefer to give your money to the schools, villages, working people and the needy. How benevolent of you to so freely give away other peoples money.
You may do what you wish with "your" money. But remember, when government is giving away all that money to the schools, villages, working people and the needy ... it gets that money by taking it away from the working people.
Serial Gramma
8:19 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011
Chuck - check facts... the SoS did not publish the law. It was published online by the reference bureau and it has not yet been determined if that makes it law so it does not meet the "constitutional definition". And if you read what I said, I mentioned nothing about giving away other people's money - I said I'd prefer to give MY tax money. People who work for the schools, the cities, the villages, the county, the state, the federal government (including Walker who has been a government employee for more than 15 years) ARE working people that pay income taxes, payroll taxes, SS & Medicare taxes, pay sales taxes, and pay property taxes.
Nate
4:56 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Tax breaks to businesses is exactly how they expand, buy capital goods, and people get hired. For too long, Dems came up with all these entitlement programs that blew the state's cash away. Your boy Doyle ruined the business environment in the state and thus when we hear about teachers bitching about their benefits....quit and find another job then if you can do better.
Serial Gramma
5:12 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Quit what Nate?? I am not a teacher or current employee of the district. Corporations want to be viewed as people now, as per the SCOTUS Citizen's United decision... well all citizens/people pay taxes so the 2/3 of corporations that pay NO taxes to the State of WI, should pay then.
Serial Gramma
5:14 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Oh, and BTW Nate, corporations that paid no taxes in past 10 years have NOT increased employees or payrolls.... hence the recession.
Nate
6:02 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
This recession has very little to do with corporations paying little to no taxes. I'm sensing you're one of those who also believe that all the rich people got tax breaks from Bush. Must be watching too much MSNBC. And your little court decision nugget is irrelevant to this argument as it has to do with PACs and campaigning.
"Federal law prohibits corporations and unions from using their general treasury funds to make independentexpenditures for speech defined as an “electioneering communication” or for speech expressly advocating the election or defeat of a candidate."
Nate
5:12 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
FYI PEOPLE!!!
http://www.dpi.state.wi.us/lbstat/newasr.html
NAME TITLE BASE FRINGE
Keith Marty District Administrator $144,108.00 $48,737.00
Jeffrey Gross Business Manager $108,200.00 $32,072.00
Kathy Myles Director of Instruction/Program Supervisor $108,200.00 $40,861.00
Mary Dohmeier Director of Special Education and/or Pupil Services $105,000.00 $43,211.00
Patricia Keller Central Office Administrator $103,700.00 $30,538.00
Mary Schoonover Library Media Supervisor $75,485.00 $37,299.00
Lynda Laugavitz District Instructional Technology Coordinator $61,418.00 $15,151.00
Gary Kiltz Principal $101,175.00 $42,477.00
Michael Harris Assistant Principal $78,450.00 $37,873.00
Robert Vitale Assistant Principal $75,200.00 $37,226.00
Mae Beard Assistant Principal $36,000.00 $2,754.00
Serial Gramma
6:43 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
FYI - NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE NATE MENTIONED ARE UNION! They are all administration and not part of any union or contract.
And to you Nate, fitting for the avatar you picked... I quote Barbara Bush to Al Franken; "I am done with you!"
Nate
7:12 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
True, and that wasn't my argument actually. I was simply stating why people should further be in an uproar. If you people want to know......there's plenty of teachers making over 50k BASE! Is Al Franken a hero of yours?
ChuckMenoFalls
7:15 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Gramma,
How many of those non-union administrators are compensated based on the terms within the collectively bargained union contracts?
Dana Olszewski
9:12 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Nate ~ Very Nice~ did you put in that it is a 9 month year that the Vice principles, principles, and teachers are getting paid for, and the benefits they receive as well,
Serial Gramma
8:24 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011
Wow Dana... you need to learn - evidently you didn't listen to your teachers on how to spell and know the difference between principle and principal. Teachers can't be blamed for those who do not wish to learn or educate themselves!
KiepKyl
9:59 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Matt,
While i understand that an increase is an increase, raising your SAT score 50 points is essentially a 3% increase. I am almost certain that the increase in test scores would be much more significant than that if we as a district, could remove even a fraction of the worst teachers, and allocate the money saved towards hiring better teachers, or rewarding the teachers that have already proven that they are effective (Julie Poetzel and Steve LeBre come to mind). I realize that doing this in an completely objective way is incredibly difficult, but with the unions in charge it is impossible. There is so much wrong with the educational system in America and I absolutely believe it can be improved, but not until we as a society remove the barriers that are restricting real change.
The prosser-cuter
11:07 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Here is the contract. The district posted it now after the fact!
http://www.sdmf.k12.wi.us/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1506175/File/Board/Budget%20&%20Contract/SDMF-2011-13-Teacher-Contract.pdf?sessionid=e9515d89a495a35ac6ac48a3812739d1
CB
7:52 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011
You're all so dumb, even Alberta Darling supported this new contract and you're all just freaking out. Education is pretty important and you all just seem to want to abolish it.
ChuckMenoFalls
9:04 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011
@CB,
Since you suggest others are "ignorant douche's," perhaps you could back your stances with intelligent content?
I have no interest in abolishing education, my interest is in abolishing the obstacles to effective education - most specifically, the teachers union.
Case in point, Menomonee Falls students are not in session tomorrow. Why, because it is a "built-in snow day." So because the weather did not force enough cancellations this school year, instead of using tomorrow for educating our children, we're going to give the teachers the day off.
I call this a travesty, the teachers union calls this part of their collective bargaining rights. Remind me again, who wants to abolish education?
Serial Gramma
5:05 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011
@ChuckMenoFalls... Case in point is not valid... state mandates how many days school MUST be in session. I agree that WI should have students in school longer hours and more days, but schools that accept vouchers, which Mr. Walker is promoting, meet the state requirement and that is all. Most parochial schools in Meno Falls got out today a full 10-12 days earlier and some have had graduations last week.
CB
7:52 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011
Mark Belling is an ignorant douche
Nate
9:17 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011
Ah, but he may call whores out like no one else.
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Nate
6:26 pm on Saturday, June 4, 2011
Yeah what the hell is this propaganda regardless whose side this promotes. This almost seems like some sort of spam message. The grammar is terrible.
Royal Eddy
7:55 am on Tuesday, June 14, 2011
The emails that Mark Belling received via his FOIA request are pretty sleezy. @David M... Discussing via email how to present your pre-determined decision to the public BEFORE you have voted on it and made the contract public is very different from what happened in Madison. D.A. Schimel has assured me that although he will be busy with a homicide case, after that he then will continue to investigate (folks, keep the pressure on the D.A.). This isn't over. It isn't a jail-time nor even a recall situation, but we need to get rid of our current school board gradually through subsequent regular elections.
Drizzit
9:22 am on Tuesday, June 14, 2011
They already approved the contracts via email a long time ago & even planned all their "quotes" and edited their quotes via email. Only liberals are allowed to edit their own quotes about a contract they didn't even pass yet. Open meetings laws were violated & more. Just think what you could do if the PARENTS received the $12,000 to $15,000 per student that the public schools receive? Give the choice to the parents & a $12,000 voucher & let the public schools compete with the private schools. The special needs students would still have a program, but they'd have a voucher to choose what school to attend also. Do the math on how much your school gets every year to produce lower grades & more sub-par test scores. The liberals don't want this because we're exposing them & we're not backing down. They control the media, but they don't own the internet even though Obama met with Zuckerburg & more conservative brilliant thought is being censored daily on facebook.
paul
10:21 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Vote for conservative representation on the Menomonee Falls School Board. - Paul A Tadda
www.paultadda.com
Election is on April 3rd
Drizzit
2:18 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
We need teachers & the school board to take their political agenda out of our schools. In Racine a teacher from Park High School told the class who the non-union teachers are. That teacher should be fired, but it won't happen with the fox guarding the henhouse.